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	<title>Comments on: Beaver and water rights</title>
	<link>http://besidethestream.com/beaver-and-water-rights/2008/09/11/</link>
	<description>Country life at 7,000 feet</description>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
		<link>http://besidethestream.com/beaver-and-water-rights/2008/09/11/#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Alice.  It seems that 'water ownership' has the potential to be far more important that all the oil and gas ownership combined. I can see that it's complicated, interesting and very political.

Not to be flip, but I think we should elect the beavers - I'm sure they are much smarter. Ha! Ha!  (Okay, maybe a little flip!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Alice.  It seems that &#8216;water ownership&#8217; has the potential to be far more important that all the oil and gas ownership combined. I can see that it&#8217;s complicated, interesting and very political.</p>
<p>Not to be flip, but I think we should elect the beavers - I&#8217;m sure they are much smarter. Ha! Ha!  (Okay, maybe a little flip!)</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
		<link>http://besidethestream.com/beaver-and-water-rights/2008/09/11/#comment-1148</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Alice.  I appreciate the lesson.  Does Denver buy their water from ranchers/farmers/landowners that have owned the water rights for years (i.e. before Denver was a city)?  

I live in the east, so I understand that part.  The situation in the west is interesting.  It seems to me that whoever "owned" the water "first", now has a lot of power

Barb, that's it in a nutshell... and western states keep electing ranchers (i.e. waterowners) to public office. They're the old families, the one with connections.  In a sense the eastern money/power model is money/power/water west of the Mississippi, because water laws allowed individuals to corral the resource.  It also means that water management is governed by science in the east; in the west, water law is what matters.  Alice   

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Alice.  I appreciate the lesson.  Does Denver buy their water from ranchers/farmers/landowners that have owned the water rights for years (i.e. before Denver was a city)?  </p>
<p>I live in the east, so I understand that part.  The situation in the west is interesting.  It seems to me that whoever &#8220;owned&#8221; the water &#8220;first&#8221;, now has a lot of power</p>
<p>Barb, that&#8217;s it in a nutshell&#8230; and western states keep electing ranchers (i.e. waterowners) to public office. They&#8217;re the old families, the one with connections.  In a sense the eastern money/power model is money/power/water west of the Mississippi, because water laws allowed individuals to corral the resource.  It also means that water management is governed by science in the east; in the west, water law is what matters.  Alice</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
		<link>http://besidethestream.com/beaver-and-water-rights/2008/09/11/#comment-1147</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you explain, for instance, who 'owns' the water rights to a city such as Denver?  

Thanks (and I hope I'm not being too stupid!)

Barb, the City of Denver owns water rights (and as it grows, it needs to buy more).  Across the country, cities own their water treatment and wastewater treatment plants, and they sell treated water to the residents.  But west of the Mississippi, cities are obligated to buy the treated water they sell; in the east they sell water without buying it first.  Alice      </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you explain, for instance, who &#8216;owns&#8217; the water rights to a city such as Denver?  </p>
<p>Thanks (and I hope I&#8217;m not being too stupid!)</p>
<p>Barb, the City of Denver owns water rights (and as it grows, it needs to buy more).  Across the country, cities own their water treatment and wastewater treatment plants, and they sell treated water to the residents.  But west of the Mississippi, cities are obligated to buy the treated water they sell; in the east they sell water without buying it first.  Alice</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://besidethestream.com/beaver-and-water-rights/2008/09/11/#comment-1146</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>!!
But...!  But!!!

The city or state should recognize that and protect/encourage the beavers out of sheer self interest!

Is there any movement in that direction, a bill, some legislation...?  I despise foolishness, especially on a large scale.  Foolishness is when ignorance is stubborn in the face of facts.

Thanks for the interesting lesson!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>!!<br />
But&#8230;!  But!!!</p>
<p>The city or state should recognize that and protect/encourage the beavers out of sheer self interest!</p>
<p>Is there any movement in that direction, a bill, some legislation&#8230;?  I despise foolishness, especially on a large scale.  Foolishness is when ignorance is stubborn in the face of facts.</p>
<p>Thanks for the interesting lesson!<br />
A</p>
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		<title>By: mvPat</title>
		<link>http://besidethestream.com/beaver-and-water-rights/2008/09/11/#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator>mvPat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for explaining so well. always learn something new here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for explaining so well. always learn something new here.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
		<link>http://besidethestream.com/beaver-and-water-rights/2008/09/11/#comment-1143</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it be safe to say that water rights in your area are a bit of a problem?  Is that true for most of the west?

GIANT problem.  The cities grew but all of the water is already owned.  Alice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be safe to say that water rights in your area are a bit of a problem?  Is that true for most of the west?</p>
<p>GIANT problem.  The cities grew but all of the water is already owned.  Alice</p>
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